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  Hillary Clinton's Formerly Suppressed Thesis ["There is Only the Fight..."]

      Freedom Underground | 2 May 1969 | Hillary D. Rodham

There is Only the Fight...[An Analysis of the Alinsky Model]


Poster comment:

Ole' Hill wanted socialist conquest of America over 35 years ago.

Posted 08/01/2007 02:08:57 pm CDT by unamused

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Category: Editorial
Keywords: Hillary  Thesis  Alinsky  
To: unamused

The Beast should not be entrusted as America's Commander-in-Chief...MUD

1   Posted 2007-08-01 15:00:13 by Mudboy Slim  

(Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution." )

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To: Mudboy Slim

Mud,

This crap needs to be translated to HTML so it is searchable, and the search bots find it.

Do you have some buddies who can transcribe sections of it to text or html?

If we can find 20 people to type about 5 pages each, I will html code them; then we can have it online in html so Hilly will never be able to deny it.

See if you can get some wideawakes to join in a project.

We could assign pages 1 - 5 to ABC Poster....

6 - 10 to DEF Poster....

11 - 15 to GHI poster....

etc.

2   Posted 2007-08-01 15:10:10 by unamused  

(1.20.09 )

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To: unamused

Isn't it available html somewhere online already.

Couldn't you just click to view source and copy/paste it with few modifications.

I could type a few pages if that doesn't work. I type pretty fast.

3   Posted 2007-08-01 16:11:42 by A K A Stone  

(Jhoffas PM Harassment.. How about you meet me at the gas station at 50 and I275.. And I'll fucking beat your teeth in. Jhoffa_ to Stone) Im at www.libertysflame.com)

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To: A K A Stone

Nah, this .pdf file is pictures of Hill's actual typewritten pages. Pix won't translate to text.

I already tried pdftohtml under Linux; no go.

This .pdf file is scans.

The only way to automate is to print the .pdf, then scan it in through and OCR (Optical Character Recognition) program. My scanner is unavailable.

4   Posted 2007-08-01 16:31:37 by unamused  

(1.20.09 )

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To: unamused

Cliff notes summary of the history, contents of Shrillery's tome:


In her 2003 memoirs, Clinton mentioned the thesis only briefly, saying she had agreed with some of Alinsky's ideas, but hadn't agreed with his belief that it was impossible to "change the system" from inside.

Well after the Clintons left the White House, the mystery thesis held its allure; for example, in 2005 Clinton critic Peggy Noonan wrote that it was "the Rosetta Stone of Hillary studies ... [which] Wellesley College obligingly continues to suppress on her request." In fact, however, the thesis had been unlocked after the Clintons left the White House in 2001 and is available — for reading only at the Wellesley college archives, or by interlibrary loan on microfilm.

The suppression of the thesis from 1993 to 2001 at the request of the Clinton White House was documented in 2007 by MSNBC.com investigative reporter Bill Dedman, who read the thesis at the Wellesley library.

He found that the thesis did not discuss Rodham's own views much, other than describing Alinsky's appealing personality. The thesis sought to fit Alinsky into a line of American social activists, including Eugene Debs, Martin Luther King Jr. and Walt Whitman.

Written in formal academic language, the thesis concluded that "[Alinsky's] power/conflict model is rendered inapplicable by existing social conflicts" and that Alinsky's model had not expanded nationally due to "the anachronistic nature of small autonomous conflict."

A Boston Globe assessment found the thesis nuanced, and said that "While [Rodham] defends Alinsky, she is also dispassionate, disappointed, and amused by his divisive methods and dogmatic ideology." Rodham's former professor and thesis adviser Alan Schechter told MSNBC.com that "There Is Only The Fight..." was a good thesis, and that its suppression by the Clinton White House "was a stupid political decision, obviously, at the time."

5   Posted 2007-08-02 06:46:09 by _Jim  

(Helping others get their word out is the best thing I can do ...)

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To: unamused

I will help transcribe some, Bret...and I will put out the word elsewhere as well. I sincerely believe Hillary needs to be exposed fer the socialist zealot she is.

Regards...MUD

6   Posted 2007-08-02 11:05:44 by Mudboy Slim  

(Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution." )

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To: unamused

Just floated yer transcription idea over on WideAwake and was told the following...

1. The thesis is not available online.

2. Anyone making it available online without the permission of the copyright holder is going to be in violation of US copyright law.

3. The copyright holder is Hillary Rodham Clinton. Lotsa luck getting the copyright holder's permission to make it available.

Regards...MUD

7   Posted 2007-08-02 14:35:06 by Mudboy Slim  

(Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution." )

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To: Mudboy Slim

Just floated yer transcription idea over on WideAwake and was told the following...

1. The thesis is not available online.

2. Anyone making it available online without the permission of the copyright holder is going to be in violation of US copyright law.

3. The copyright holder is Hillary Rodham Clinton. Lotsa luck getting the copyright holder's permission to make it available.

Regards...MUD
________________________________________________________________________

I was reading it and some parts are hard to make out.

It is bullshit that it is copyrighted.

Even if it was you could put it online under fair use.

That sounds like a challenge and makes me want to go type it myself. Let them sue me. I don't think they have the guts. It would bring to much negative publicity.

8   Posted 2007-08-02 17:23:52 by A K A Stone  

(Jhoffas PM Harassment.. How about you meet me at the gas station at 50 and I275.. And I'll fucking beat your teeth in. Jhoffa_ to Stone) Im at www.libertysflame.com)

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To: A K A Stone

Let's git started...LOL!!

9   Posted 2007-08-03 10:31:24 by Mudboy Slim  

(Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution." )

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To: Mudboy Slim

Well,

thanx for trying, Mud.

I was afraid that might be the answer.

I just think that we the people have the right to know that one of our candidates is a Marxist nutjob, and be able to see it in her own words.

I don't want this info to "disappear."

10   Posted 2007-08-03 11:52:20 by unamused  

(1.20.09 )

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To: unamused

Well,

thanx for trying, Mud.

I was afraid that might be the answer.

I just think that we the people have the right to know that one of our candidates is a Marxist nutjob, and be able to see it in her own words.

I don't want this info to "disappear."
________________________________________________________________
Are you saying you wouldn't host this information if it was typed up.

Also it could be put on p2p networks and it would spread that way too.

11   Posted 2007-08-03 15:45:29 by A K A Stone  

(Jhoffas PM Harassment.. How about you meet me at the gas station at 50 and I275.. And I'll fucking beat your teeth in. Jhoffa_ to Stone) Im at www.libertysflame.com)

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To: Mudboy Slim

I'm a little slow mud. What is the point you are trying to make with that clip.

12   Posted 2007-08-03 15:46:04 by A K A Stone  

(Jhoffas PM Harassment.. How about you meet me at the gas station at 50 and I275.. And I'll fucking beat your teeth in. Jhoffa_ to Stone) Im at www.libertysflame.com)

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To: A K A Stone

The point of the post, you ask? I dunno, but I figgered we hadta start somewhere...MUD

13   Posted 2007-08-03 16:17:14 by Mudboy Slim  

(Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution." )

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To: unamused

I'll keep an eye out...wouldn't surprise me a bit if we were debating this thesis "on-line" in no time...MUD

14   Posted 2007-08-03 16:19:14 by Mudboy Slim  

(Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution." )

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To: A K A Stone

Are you saying you wouldn't host this information if it was typed up.

Oh Yeah! I'll host it. And get it spread to 'net buddies with servers overseas where American court injunctions don't mean doodly squat.

15   Posted 2007-08-03 19:52:16 by unamused  

(1.20.09 )

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To: unamused

I started to type it up. I lost my MS word sometime back. I tried with Notepad and it wasn't working out to well. The formatting of it that is.

I'll have to find a better word processor before starting again.

Maybe that open office I hear about.

I would download an office off of some torrent site but they usually turn out to be fakes.

16   Posted 2007-08-03 19:57:40 by A K A Stone  

(Jhoffas PM Harassment.. How about you meet me at the gas station at 50 and I275.. And I'll fucking beat your teeth in. Jhoffa_ to Stone) Im at www.libertysflame.com)

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To: A K A Stone

OpenOffice is 10X better than MS Office. Get it. They have a Windoze version.

OO will read all of your old MS Word docs, and will let you save in Word format. It also does Excel, Quattro Pro, Lotus 1.2.3, Wordperfect, etc.

17   Posted 2007-08-03 20:08:20 by unamused  

(1.20.09 )

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To: unamused

Downloading. Thanks

18   Posted 2007-08-03 20:12:03 by A K A Stone  

(Jhoffas PM Harassment.. How about you meet me at the gas station at 50 and I275.. And I'll fucking beat your teeth in. Jhoffa_ to Stone) Im at www.libertysflame.com)

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To: unamused

I didn't notice that anyone had volunteered to do the transcription, so I've taken it upon myself. I'm a little anal about the final product, so I'm trying to keep the page formatting as close to the appearance of the original doc as possible. It'll be a Word doc when I'm done. If anyone wants a copy just speak up.

It will take me a few days to get this finished. I'm doing it in the spare hours of my evenings, which aren't always free. But this issue is important to me, as is spreading the word; Lord knows I wish I could do more to fight for our freedom.

19   Posted 2007-08-22 20:15:37 by The_Forge

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To: The_Forge

I have a few pages typed up. Open office format. Set to microsoft word. I can send it to you if you want to.

20   Posted 2007-08-22 21:07:49 by A K A Stone  

(Jhoffas PM Harassment.. How about you meet me at the gas station at 50 and I275.. And I'll fucking beat your teeth in. Jhoffa_ to Stone) Im at www.libertysflame.com)

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To: The_Forge

You've got mail.

21   Posted 2007-08-22 21:40:45 by A K A Stone  

(Jhoffas PM Harassment.. How about you meet me at the gas station at 50 and I275.. And I'll fucking beat your teeth in. Jhoffa_ to Stone) Im at www.libertysflame.com)

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To: The_Forge

"It'll be a Word doc when I'm done. If anyone wants a copy just speak up."

Please ping me when yer done...kudos fer stepping up to the challenge...MUD

22   Posted 2007-08-23 18:08:28 by Mudboy Slim  

(Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution." )

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To: Mudboy Slim

Posters,

Publius here, admin of GOPublius.com the host of the infamous Thesis. I am glad to host any word or other wordprocessor version of the thesis instead of the .jpg presently available. Unfortunately as it is the best format to present the Thesis to the masses in paged jpgs. frames were quick and easy, and they seem to work.

Feel free to contact us at info at gopublius.com

In Liberty
Publius

23   Posted 2007-10-11 22:12:37 by Publius

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To: Publius

If you're not a Ron Paul supporter, then please feel free to die.

24   Posted 2007-10-12 07:55:24 by continental op  

("I always think of this when I see a file of soldiers, wondering why the sound of a drum does not incite them to shoot their officers, throw away their rifles, go home, and go to work." - Albert J. Nock. )

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To: continental op; unamused

Have you EVER had anything worthwhile to say, you pencilnecked geek?

I'm sure Bret loves the way you try and chase away new posters to his site...MUD

25   Posted 2007-10-12 08:28:34 by Mudboy Slim  

(Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution." )

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To: Publius

Thanks, Publius, your link is invaluable as a source to learn just what makes the Hildabeast tick. Many of us would just like to see it transcribed to HTML format so we can copy/paste portions of it to others so they can learn the truth as well.



Regards...MUD

26   Posted 2007-10-12 08:31:55 by Mudboy Slim  

(Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution." )

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To: Mudboy Slim

I went to his site. Guy's a GOP scumbag.

"The Michigan debate may have been Giuliani’s best. The affable mayor seemed relaxed, optimistic, and in command of the issues. His attacks, waged largely against Hillary Clinton, did much to elevate him above the other candidates and helped to feed the notion that Giuliani is both the inevitable nominee and the best match-up against Hillary Clinton in a general election."

"Ron Paul’s slightly hysterical personal style continues to erode any gains that his principled constitutional positions might otherwise engender,"

27   Posted 2007-10-12 08:51:27 by continental op  

("I always think of this when I see a file of soldiers, wondering why the sound of a drum does not incite them to shoot their officers, throw away their rifles, go home, and go to work." - Albert J. Nock. )

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To: unamused

"If we can find 20 people to type about 5 pages each, I will html code them; then we can have it online in html so Hilly will never be able to deny it.

See if you can get some wideawakes to join in a project."

Wideawakes?! Who the heck's that?

LOL and regards, Bret...Happy Father's Day!!

28   Posted 2009-06-21 13:22:44 by Mudboy Slim  

(Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution." )

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To: buckeroo

Heh heh heh...MUD

29   Posted 2009-06-21 13:27:01 by Mudboy Slim  

(Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution." )

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To: buckeroo

Heh heh heh...MUD

30   Posted 2009-06-21 13:35:53 by Mudboy Slim  

(Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution." )

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